2008/08/13

Warning! Don't buy Van Der Led Jisus V2

I paid more than 400,00 Euro two month ago.
No "Jisus V2", no money back - as offered - till today.
Warning: Don't trust Van Der Led!
I will lodge a complaint against this guys.

Take a look:
blog.bbi24.tv


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2008/08/03

No Jisus, no money back till today!

Attempted fraud offence?

I have to consult a lawyer.

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2008/08/01

New adress & chinese mobile phone

Is Van Der Led real?

Rotterdam or Barendrecht or Hong Kong?

Adress on my order confirmation (June 2008):
Van Der Led | Lodewijk pincoffsweg 38 | 3071 AS Rotterdam

Lodewijk pincoffsweg 38:
Office of Marfo Media (Jesse Marfo) www.marfomedia.com
Office of "Billionaires Entertainment"

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Website adress www.vanderled.com (July 2008):
Van Der Led | Kwikstaart 2a | 2991 MJ Barendrecht

Contact phone website: (86)-158-14705387
"+86" for China, "158" is a mobile phone number!

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Kwikstaart 2a, MJ Barendrecht:
Private home or office of the international
company Van Der Led?













Another company at Kwikstaart 2a:
Celestia

www.celestia.nl

Welcome site Celestia














The owner we just know:
Vincent Ramnares
, Co-Founder of Van Der Led

The administrator of the website we just know:
Ka-Hing Cheung (k.H. Cheung)


Vincent Ramnares

















http://vramnares.hyves.nl/

V.Ramnares online store without any company information: www.iqiva.nl
Hardware (6 items), Software (4 items), DVD Movies (17 items)

His website: www.vramnares.com
"Hello guys,. i have some good news for some of you.
If you live in Holland, Hungary, Germany, Spain or Czech Republic
this is the deal for you.

Some time ago i received a email from a guy called “hogenwerf”
he explained to me that he is involved in this international project
that will help people start their own business and coach them while
they are starting their business. The main reasons why it is on this
blog is that it is free to take advantage of this offer.

Thats right, its FREE. But only for a limited time since there can only
participate 15 companies and i have registered 3 companies already.
This shows how fast this offer can last.
But dont just take my word for it, act now before it is too late, after all its
costs absolutely nothing, not a dime, not a string attached to it.

I have put the adress and the contacts below so you can contact them for
any questions regarding this free program." (17/03/2008)

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2008/07/21

VDL promises me the earth

Mail from Jesse Marfo, Van Der Led

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From: jessemarfo@hotmail.com
To : ***@*****
Date: 21.07.2008 04:46:15

Good day K*** B***,

Sorry for the late reply.
I have sent the 28.00 EUR taxes that you paid to your account.
There were some heating problems with the Jisus V2, that’s why you have not received it yet.
The heating problem is fixed, but the new good working Jisus V2 will arrive this week. I understand that you are waiting for a long time; you can choose for your money back if you want.

Best regards,

Jesse Marfo
Van Der Led
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2008/07/20

"Enough is enough"

writes this poster:

www.engadget.com

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hanselda @ Jun 1st 2008 2:18PM

Oh man. You still think this website and its products are genuine?

Do you think a company for selling LED can gain the technology to make such innovative MP3, cellphone and UMPC?

Do you think ubuntu can run on Loongson CPU (it is MIPS!), as it is said on this website?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu#System_requirements
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loongson#Loongson_2

Do you think a company of UMPC will build a website without any information about where the company is, what the registered name is, and what is at least the telephone number is?

Do you think a webshop of certain website is genuine if it just gives you a paypal account without any other info, at least the telephone number? So you still have hope on it if it even does not reply to your email?

Do you think a company promoting such good products will not get any public media coverage?

Do you think a company with "so many years of experience in LED light" will sell their LED products with no cost?
http://vanderled.com/onlinestore/product_info.php/cPath/49_50/products_id/67

Enough is enough. I have been watching this company from time to time and all I can say is it is nothing more but a scam! I have seen several times a comment saying they had paid but nothing received on their website. But now all this comments are deleted.

The following theory is a speculation which is believed by many of us Chinese: This website is forged in order to cheat people that Loongson CPU have been exported to western world, or translated from the patriotisc Chinese words "marching towards the world market". Since the CPU project is not a private endeavor but a national project to establish the central technology of processors for China, it it very important for this project to demonstrate certain achievements. The real commercial achievements on market is pathetic even in China, so the project really needs some marks on paper for the budgets.

Related to this projects there have been several reports about fraud already, such as:
tech.163.com/digi/06/1018/11/2TNDIAU200161MAH.html
Here the laptop has a photoshoped keyboard of apple.

If you guys can read Chinese, take a look here:
baike.360.cn/4003312/4216070.html

BTW: for this product (Jisus V2), why they claim specifically "Assembled in Country of Origin: China" in the specs? For me it looks like another patriotic slogan.


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2008/07/18

Jesse Marfo - founder of Van Der Led

Jesse Marfo is the founder of Van Der Led and the legal representative/business owner of Marfo Media

"Marfo Media is a professional Quad full HD LCD / Multi Media company based in Holland.
Business Type: Manufacturer, Distributor/Wholesaler, Other
Product/Services: Professional 56'' Quad Full Hd Display, LCD, Miltimedia
Brands: Marfo Media
Number of Employees: Less than 5 People
Company Website URL: http://www.marfomedia.com
Year Established: 2006
Legal Representative/Business Owner: Jesse Marfo
Main Customers: Hospitals, Broadcasters, Rich people etc.
Total Annual Sales Volume: Below US$1 Million"

http://www.alibaba.com/member/nl100006105/aboutus.html


A bit more ...


















http://en.asiakingworld.com/company.html/12067

Owner of the domain www.marfomedia.com:
DT Interlink, Ka-Hing Cheung

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2008/07/17

My last mail to Van Der Led

Where is my Jisus, where is the refund?

You just know it: NO ANSWER!!!!

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2008/07/16

No Jisus V2 till today!

Six days since the 10th of July!

Meanwhile I found this article:
http://www.engadget.com/profile/1932931/

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Recent Comments:
Van Der Led's WM2 cellphone is Slayer approved {Engadget}

Apr 27th 2008 4:43PM
Dont buy, I did and this is what they
came up with after some mail traffic why they don´t deliver.


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Good day,

Thank you for your interest in Van Der Led and its products.

For the past few weeks we have been working very hard on our new mobile
watch phones (MW1, MW2), and the introduction around it, But at the same
time more technical problems came with it.
Because our server crashed, we lost every paypal order that we received by
email (and thus makes us unable to check out the order) and because of
this the delivery has been delayed for an unknown time.

We are an young company that is trying to introduce new and innovative
products to the world, we are also at this moment very understaffed as we
receive numerous emails. But because of bad luck we have received some
negative feedback from some of our customers.
We want to show our customers that we intend to do good business, so we
will give everyone the following options:

1. if you still want your ordered product, send an e-mail with information
about your order to Payment@vanderled.com. (we do not have the exact date
of delivery, but we are working hard on it.) . As a thank you gift, you
will receive an 2 GB Micro SD Card.

or

2. if you want your money back, you can send an e-mail with your
information and money back as subject to payment@vanderled.com.

We hope that this letter will give us both a chance to understand one
another better. We are very sorry for the inconvenience it has caused.

If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact us.

Kind Regards,
Van Der Led
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The´ve got the money and now the´re postponing deliveries. Dont´t buy!!!!

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2008/07/06

Should I trust the founder and director?

of Van Der Led?

I WILL!

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First mail from Van der Led!

Because of my Blog announcement?

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From: jessemarfo@hotmail.com
To : *****@*****
Date: 06.07.2008 17:09:53


Good day K*** B***,

We have sent you an e-mail on July 2nd that we will send you a Jisus V2 on the 10th of July. You do not have to send back the MW2, and we will refund the 28.00 EUR tax / custom you paid.

We do not know why you did not receive our e-mail.
We will do our best to solve this problem as soon as possible.


Best regards,

Jesse Marfo
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2008/07/04

Announcing a Blog

about my experiences with Van Der Led.

To: JESSE MARFO and VINCENT RAMNARES:
Text: "On Monday, 07 July 2008 I will open a Blog about my bad experiences with Van der Led (VDL) ..."

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2008/07/02

Paid 408,00 EUR till today - no Jisus

and got a fake watch ...

I wrote (again) to

info@vanderled.com
order@vanderled.com
jessemarfo@hotmail.com


"Please tell me what to do!"

NO ANSWER!!!

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Parcel from Hong Kong arrived

Hey is it my Jisus V2?

Before I could get the parcel (my Jisus?) I had to pay another 28,00 EUR for custom/tax.

I opened the parcel ... no Jisus! ... it's a watch with integrated cellphone, looks like a fake ... I don't think it works, I don't want to touch this never ordered stuff ...

What to do? Sending back the watch to Hong Kong? Where? No adress, no consigner/shipper, everything very strange ...

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2008/06/26

Another mail to Van Der Led

asking for information.

NO ANSWER!!

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2008/06/22

Mail to info@vanderled.com

asking the status of my order.

NO ANSWER!

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2008/06/20

Researches about Mr. Marfo & Mr. Ramnares

patpatpat, Sonntag, 13. April 2008, 14:40
Abt. hoax or hype - heute: van der led wm2
english version: see further down!

Bei Engadget und vielen anderen Technospielzeugsites vorgestellt und ab Morgen Montag, 14.4., angeblich im Verkauf: das Wunderhandy in der Armbanduhr. Zu beziehen bei einem Onlineshop unter der Adresse vanderled.com. Ein kurzer Blick in die whois-Daten zeigt allerdings, dass die Domain am 15. April verfällt. Also genau 1 Tag nach Verkaufsstart. Denn auf der Website steht:

This product will be in stock on Monday 14 April, 2008.

Irgendwie fishy. Der Verdacht: Ein attraktives Gadget hypen, Geld für (Vor)Bestellungen einsacken via paypal und am zweiten Tag nach dem "Verkaufsstart" die Zelte abbrechen und verschwinden. Die Domain gehört einem Jesse Marfo, daheim hier. Über die Chefs von Van Der Led schreibt die Site:



Jesse Marfo is an experienced business man in the multimedia field and has been working for years in helping people develop their company into a successful business. Mr. Jesse Marfo is also the founder of Van Der Led.


Mr. Vincent Ramnares is the co-founder of Van Der Led. Due to his position in founding companies, he possesses profound expertise in launching and building up start up ventures.


Nun ja, man kann ja mal hoch pokern. Jedenfalls wirken die zwei auf diesem Foto eher jung und unternehmenslustig als professionell und erfahren. Man darf gespannt sein, ob's vanderled.com übermorgen noch gibt (das mit dem Domainverfall ergo nur ein dummer Zufall ist), oder ob Marfo und Ramnares dann mit den Einnahmen aus den Vorbestellungen für ihre Handyuhr abtauchen und die Site verschwindet.

Und hier die Zusammenfassung für unsere englischsprachigen Freunde:

Engadget hypes a watch with integrated cellphone from company van der led, available starting tomorrow monday. But if you look a little closer, you see that the domain vanderled.com will expire the day after tomorrow. so some alarms should go off. and even the very impatient should hold their breath, wait with their (pre-)orders and see if vanderled.com is still around in 72 hours or if this was just another scam.

http://infam.antville.org/stories/1783505/

http://www.deweekkrant.nl/files/pdfarchief/HNO/20071107/HNO_HNO-1-05_071107_1.pdf
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2008/06/17

No payment confirmation

till I wired the money ...

Startet my first research about the company Van der Led.

DOMAIN: VANDERLED.COM
created-date: 2007-04-15

owner-fname: Jesse
owner-lname: Marfo
owner-street: Lodewijkpincoffsweg 38
owner-city: Rotterdam
owner-zip: 3071 AS
owner-country: NL
owner-phone: 0650550677
owner-email: jessemarfo@hotmail.com

admin-organization: DT Interlink
admin-fname: K.H.
admin-lname: Cheung
admin-phone: 0643819464
admin-email: khcheung@dtinterlink.nl

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2008/06/09

I paid 379,99 EUR

to get my Jisus V2

Account holder: Van Der Led
Lodewijk pincoffsweg 38 / 3071 AS Rotterdam

Account IBAN: NL28 RABO 0132 8818 88
BIC / SWIFT code: RABONL2U
Bank name: Rabobank, Rotterdam / Account nr.: 132 881 8888

www.rabobank.nl

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2008/06/02

I ordered it ...

and got this E-Mail:

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From: info@vanderled.com
To : *******@*********
Date: 02.06.2008 12:44:05

Van Der Led
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Order Number: 372
Detailed Invoice: http://vanderled.com/.....
Date Ordered: Monday 02 June, 2008

Products
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1 x Jisus V2 (Brown Leather) (JV210i-B) = 349.99EUR
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Sub-Total: 349.99EUR
Flat Rate (Best Way): 30.00EUR
Total: 379.99 EUR

Delivery Address
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K**** B*******
******, Berlin, Germany

Payment Method
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European Bank Transfer

Please transfer the total amount to the following bank account.
Enter your name and your invoice number in the subject field.

Account holder: Van Der Led
Lodewijk pincoffsweg 38 / Postalcode: 3071 AS Rotterdam

Account IBAN: NL28 RABO 0132 8818 88
BIC / SWIFT code: RABONL2U
Bank name: Rabobank, Rotterdam / Account nr.: 132 881 8888

Please make sure your payment is with us within 7 days
or your order will be cancelled.

We will ship your order as soon as we receive your payment.

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2008/05/25

I saw it online

Product description VAN DER LED online shop:

Jisus V2 (Red Leather) 349.99 EUR

[JV210i-R]



* Monitor: 10.2 Inch 16:9 (1024x600 pixels), LED backlight, VGA port
* Processor: VIA C7-M 1.6GHz
* Graphics: VIA Chrome9 HC
* Memory: 1GB DDR2 533
* HDD: 80GB 5400rpm
* Wi-Fi: 802.11 a/b/g wireless LAN
* Bluetooth: Bluetooth 2.0
* USB port: 2 x USB 2.0
* Multi-function card reader: SD/MS/MS-Pro/MMC
* Network: Built-in RJ-45 connectors for LAN connection
* 1 x 10/100Mbps RJ45 port
* Audio: 1 x microphone port & 1 x two channel earphone port
* Build in stereo speakers: ALC202 AC97 Soft HD Audio
* 3 Hours of wireless productivity (3 Cell 7.4V, 2200mAH )
* Operating system: Ubuntu, others possible
* Extra: 1.3 real megapixel external webcam with build in usb hub

Assembled in Country of Origin: China

This product was added to our catalog on Friday 23 May, 2008

http://vanderled.com/onlinestore/product_info.php/products_id/87?osCsid=ad20e9de93632a88f0b7dffae1231686
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