I paid more than 400,00 Euro two month ago.
No "Jisus V2", no money back - as offered - till today.
Warning: Don't trust Van Der Led!
I will lodge a complaint against this guys.
Take a look:
blog.bbi24.tv
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2008/08/03
No Jisus, no money back till today!
Attempted fraud offence?
I have to consult a lawyer.
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I have to consult a lawyer.
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2008/08/01
New adress & chinese mobile phone
Is Van Der Led real?
Rotterdam or Barendrecht or Hong Kong?
Adress on my order confirmation (June 2008):
Van Der Led | Lodewijk pincoffsweg 38 | 3071 AS Rotterdam
Lodewijk pincoffsweg 38:
Office of Marfo Media (Jesse Marfo) www.marfomedia.com
Office of "Billionaires Entertainment"
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Website adress www.vanderled.com (July 2008):
Van Der Led | Kwikstaart 2a | 2991 MJ Barendrecht
Contact phone website: (86)-158-14705387
"+86" for China, "158" is a mobile phone number!
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Kwikstaart 2a, MJ Barendrecht:
Private home or office of the international
company Van Der Led?
Another company at Kwikstaart 2a:
Celestia
www.celestia.nl
Welcome site Celestia
The owner we just know:
Vincent Ramnares, Co-Founder of Van Der Led
The administrator of the website we just know:
Ka-Hing Cheung (k.H. Cheung)
Vincent Ramnares
http://vramnares.hyves.nl/
V.Ramnares online store without any company information: www.iqiva.nl
Hardware (6 items), Software (4 items), DVD Movies (17 items)
His website: www.vramnares.com
"Hello guys,. i have some good news for some of you.
If you live in Holland, Hungary, Germany, Spain or Czech Republic
this is the deal for you.
Some time ago i received a email from a guy called “hogenwerf”
he explained to me that he is involved in this international project
that will help people start their own business and coach them while
they are starting their business. The main reasons why it is on this
blog is that it is free to take advantage of this offer.
Thats right, its FREE. But only for a limited time since there can only
participate 15 companies and i have registered 3 companies already.
This shows how fast this offer can last.
But dont just take my word for it, act now before it is too late, after all its
costs absolutely nothing, not a dime, not a string attached to it.
I have put the adress and the contacts below so you can contact them for
any questions regarding this free program." (17/03/2008)
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Rotterdam or Barendrecht or Hong Kong?
Adress on my order confirmation (June 2008):
Van Der Led | Lodewijk pincoffsweg 38 | 3071 AS Rotterdam
Lodewijk pincoffsweg 38:
Office of Marfo Media (Jesse Marfo) www.marfomedia.com
Office of "Billionaires Entertainment"
----------
Website adress www.vanderled.com (July 2008):
Van Der Led | Kwikstaart 2a | 2991 MJ Barendrecht
Contact phone website: (86)-158-14705387
"+86" for China, "158" is a mobile phone number!
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Kwikstaart 2a, MJ Barendrecht:
Private home or office of the international
company Van Der Led?
Another company at Kwikstaart 2a:
Celestia
www.celestia.nl
Welcome site Celestia
The owner we just know:
Vincent Ramnares, Co-Founder of Van Der Led
The administrator of the website we just know:
Ka-Hing Cheung (k.H. Cheung)
Vincent Ramnares
http://vramnares.hyves.nl/
V.Ramnares online store without any company information: www.iqiva.nl
Hardware (6 items), Software (4 items), DVD Movies (17 items)
His website: www.vramnares.com
"Hello guys,. i have some good news for some of you.
If you live in Holland, Hungary, Germany, Spain or Czech Republic
this is the deal for you.
Some time ago i received a email from a guy called “hogenwerf”
he explained to me that he is involved in this international project
that will help people start their own business and coach them while
they are starting their business. The main reasons why it is on this
blog is that it is free to take advantage of this offer.
Thats right, its FREE. But only for a limited time since there can only
participate 15 companies and i have registered 3 companies already.
This shows how fast this offer can last.
But dont just take my word for it, act now before it is too late, after all its
costs absolutely nothing, not a dime, not a string attached to it.
I have put the adress and the contacts below so you can contact them for
any questions regarding this free program." (17/03/2008)
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2008/07/21
VDL promises me the earth
Mail from Jesse Marfo, Van Der Led
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From: jessemarfo@hotmail.com
To : ***@*****
Date: 21.07.2008 04:46:15
Good day K*** B***,
Sorry for the late reply.
I have sent the 28.00 EUR taxes that you paid to your account.
There were some heating problems with the Jisus V2, that’s why you have not received it yet.
The heating problem is fixed, but the new good working Jisus V2 will arrive this week. I understand that you are waiting for a long time; you can choose for your money back if you want.
Best regards,
Jesse Marfo
Van Der Led
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From: jessemarfo@hotmail.com
To : ***@*****
Date: 21.07.2008 04:46:15
Good day K*** B***,
Sorry for the late reply.
I have sent the 28.00 EUR taxes that you paid to your account.
There were some heating problems with the Jisus V2, that’s why you have not received it yet.
The heating problem is fixed, but the new good working Jisus V2 will arrive this week. I understand that you are waiting for a long time; you can choose for your money back if you want.
Best regards,
Jesse Marfo
Van Der Led
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2008/07/20
"Enough is enough"
writes this poster:
www.engadget.com
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hanselda @ Jun 1st 2008 2:18PM
Oh man. You still think this website and its products are genuine?
Do you think a company for selling LED can gain the technology to make such innovative MP3, cellphone and UMPC?
Do you think ubuntu can run on Loongson CPU (it is MIPS!), as it is said on this website?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu#System_requirements
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loongson#Loongson_2
Do you think a company of UMPC will build a website without any information about where the company is, what the registered name is, and what is at least the telephone number is?
Do you think a webshop of certain website is genuine if it just gives you a paypal account without any other info, at least the telephone number? So you still have hope on it if it even does not reply to your email?
Do you think a company promoting such good products will not get any public media coverage?
Do you think a company with "so many years of experience in LED light" will sell their LED products with no cost?
http://vanderled.com/onlinestore/product_info.php/cPath/49_50/products_id/67
Enough is enough. I have been watching this company from time to time and all I can say is it is nothing more but a scam! I have seen several times a comment saying they had paid but nothing received on their website. But now all this comments are deleted.
The following theory is a speculation which is believed by many of us Chinese: This website is forged in order to cheat people that Loongson CPU have been exported to western world, or translated from the patriotisc Chinese words "marching towards the world market". Since the CPU project is not a private endeavor but a national project to establish the central technology of processors for China, it it very important for this project to demonstrate certain achievements. The real commercial achievements on market is pathetic even in China, so the project really needs some marks on paper for the budgets.
Related to this projects there have been several reports about fraud already, such as:
tech.163.com/digi/06/1018/11/2TNDIAU200161MAH.html
Here the laptop has a photoshoped keyboard of apple.
If you guys can read Chinese, take a look here:
baike.360.cn/4003312/4216070.html
BTW: for this product (Jisus V2), why they claim specifically "Assembled in Country of Origin: China" in the specs? For me it looks like another patriotic slogan.
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www.engadget.com
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hanselda @ Jun 1st 2008 2:18PM
Oh man. You still think this website and its products are genuine?
Do you think a company for selling LED can gain the technology to make such innovative MP3, cellphone and UMPC?
Do you think ubuntu can run on Loongson CPU (it is MIPS!), as it is said on this website?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu#System_requirements
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loongson#Loongson_2
Do you think a company of UMPC will build a website without any information about where the company is, what the registered name is, and what is at least the telephone number is?
Do you think a webshop of certain website is genuine if it just gives you a paypal account without any other info, at least the telephone number? So you still have hope on it if it even does not reply to your email?
Do you think a company promoting such good products will not get any public media coverage?
Do you think a company with "so many years of experience in LED light" will sell their LED products with no cost?
http://vanderled.com/onlinestore/product_info.php/cPath/49_50/products_id/67
Enough is enough. I have been watching this company from time to time and all I can say is it is nothing more but a scam! I have seen several times a comment saying they had paid but nothing received on their website. But now all this comments are deleted.
The following theory is a speculation which is believed by many of us Chinese: This website is forged in order to cheat people that Loongson CPU have been exported to western world, or translated from the patriotisc Chinese words "marching towards the world market". Since the CPU project is not a private endeavor but a national project to establish the central technology of processors for China, it it very important for this project to demonstrate certain achievements. The real commercial achievements on market is pathetic even in China, so the project really needs some marks on paper for the budgets.
Related to this projects there have been several reports about fraud already, such as:
tech.163.com/digi/06/1018/11/2TNDIAU200161MAH.html
Here the laptop has a photoshoped keyboard of apple.
If you guys can read Chinese, take a look here:
baike.360.cn/4003312/4216070.html
BTW: for this product (Jisus V2), why they claim specifically "Assembled in Country of Origin: China" in the specs? For me it looks like another patriotic slogan.
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2008/07/18
Jesse Marfo - founder of Van Der Led
Jesse Marfo is the founder of Van Der Led and the legal representative/business owner of Marfo Media
"Marfo Media is a professional Quad full HD LCD / Multi Media company based in Holland.
Business Type: Manufacturer, Distributor/Wholesaler, Other
Product/Services: Professional 56'' Quad Full Hd Display, LCD, Miltimedia
Brands: Marfo Media
Number of Employees: Less than 5 People
Company Website URL: http://www.marfomedia.com
Year Established: 2006
Legal Representative/Business Owner: Jesse Marfo
Main Customers: Hospitals, Broadcasters, Rich people etc.
Total Annual Sales Volume: Below US$1 Million"
http://www.alibaba.com/member/nl100006105/aboutus.html
A bit more ...
http://en.asiakingworld.com/company.html/12067
Owner of the domain www.marfomedia.com:
DT Interlink, Ka-Hing Cheung
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"Marfo Media is a professional Quad full HD LCD / Multi Media company based in Holland.
Business Type: Manufacturer, Distributor/Wholesaler, Other
Product/Services: Professional 56'' Quad Full Hd Display, LCD, Miltimedia
Brands: Marfo Media
Number of Employees: Less than 5 People
Company Website URL: http://www.marfomedia.com
Year Established: 2006
Legal Representative/Business Owner: Jesse Marfo
Main Customers: Hospitals, Broadcasters, Rich people etc.
Total Annual Sales Volume: Below US$1 Million"
http://www.alibaba.com/member/nl100006105/aboutus.html
A bit more ...
http://en.asiakingworld.com/company.html/12067
Owner of the domain www.marfomedia.com:
DT Interlink, Ka-Hing Cheung
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2008/07/17
My last mail to Van Der Led
Where is my Jisus, where is the refund?
You just know it: NO ANSWER!!!!
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You just know it: NO ANSWER!!!!
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