Mail from Jesse Marfo, Van Der Led
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From: jessemarfo@hotmail.com
To : ***@*****
Date: 21.07.2008 04:46:15
Good day K*** B***,
Sorry for the late reply.
I have sent the 28.00 EUR taxes that you paid to your account.
There were some heating problems with the Jisus V2, that’s why you have not received it yet.
The heating problem is fixed, but the new good working Jisus V2 will arrive this week. I understand that you are waiting for a long time; you can choose for your money back if you want.
Best regards,
Jesse Marfo
Van Der Led
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2008/07/21
2008/07/20
"Enough is enough"
writes this poster:
www.engadget.com
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hanselda @ Jun 1st 2008 2:18PM
Oh man. You still think this website and its products are genuine?
Do you think a company for selling LED can gain the technology to make such innovative MP3, cellphone and UMPC?
Do you think ubuntu can run on Loongson CPU (it is MIPS!), as it is said on this website?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu#System_requirements
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loongson#Loongson_2
Do you think a company of UMPC will build a website without any information about where the company is, what the registered name is, and what is at least the telephone number is?
Do you think a webshop of certain website is genuine if it just gives you a paypal account without any other info, at least the telephone number? So you still have hope on it if it even does not reply to your email?
Do you think a company promoting such good products will not get any public media coverage?
Do you think a company with "so many years of experience in LED light" will sell their LED products with no cost?
http://vanderled.com/onlinestore/product_info.php/cPath/49_50/products_id/67
Enough is enough. I have been watching this company from time to time and all I can say is it is nothing more but a scam! I have seen several times a comment saying they had paid but nothing received on their website. But now all this comments are deleted.
The following theory is a speculation which is believed by many of us Chinese: This website is forged in order to cheat people that Loongson CPU have been exported to western world, or translated from the patriotisc Chinese words "marching towards the world market". Since the CPU project is not a private endeavor but a national project to establish the central technology of processors for China, it it very important for this project to demonstrate certain achievements. The real commercial achievements on market is pathetic even in China, so the project really needs some marks on paper for the budgets.
Related to this projects there have been several reports about fraud already, such as:
tech.163.com/digi/06/1018/11/2TNDIAU200161MAH.html
Here the laptop has a photoshoped keyboard of apple.
If you guys can read Chinese, take a look here:
baike.360.cn/4003312/4216070.html
BTW: for this product (Jisus V2), why they claim specifically "Assembled in Country of Origin: China" in the specs? For me it looks like another patriotic slogan.
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www.engadget.com
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hanselda @ Jun 1st 2008 2:18PM
Oh man. You still think this website and its products are genuine?
Do you think a company for selling LED can gain the technology to make such innovative MP3, cellphone and UMPC?
Do you think ubuntu can run on Loongson CPU (it is MIPS!), as it is said on this website?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu#System_requirements
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loongson#Loongson_2
Do you think a company of UMPC will build a website without any information about where the company is, what the registered name is, and what is at least the telephone number is?
Do you think a webshop of certain website is genuine if it just gives you a paypal account without any other info, at least the telephone number? So you still have hope on it if it even does not reply to your email?
Do you think a company promoting such good products will not get any public media coverage?
Do you think a company with "so many years of experience in LED light" will sell their LED products with no cost?
http://vanderled.com/onlinestore/product_info.php/cPath/49_50/products_id/67
Enough is enough. I have been watching this company from time to time and all I can say is it is nothing more but a scam! I have seen several times a comment saying they had paid but nothing received on their website. But now all this comments are deleted.
The following theory is a speculation which is believed by many of us Chinese: This website is forged in order to cheat people that Loongson CPU have been exported to western world, or translated from the patriotisc Chinese words "marching towards the world market". Since the CPU project is not a private endeavor but a national project to establish the central technology of processors for China, it it very important for this project to demonstrate certain achievements. The real commercial achievements on market is pathetic even in China, so the project really needs some marks on paper for the budgets.
Related to this projects there have been several reports about fraud already, such as:
tech.163.com/digi/06/1018/11/2TNDIAU200161MAH.html
Here the laptop has a photoshoped keyboard of apple.
If you guys can read Chinese, take a look here:
baike.360.cn/4003312/4216070.html
BTW: for this product (Jisus V2), why they claim specifically "Assembled in Country of Origin: China" in the specs? For me it looks like another patriotic slogan.
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2008/07/18
Jesse Marfo - founder of Van Der Led
Jesse Marfo is the founder of Van Der Led and the legal representative/business owner of Marfo Media
"Marfo Media is a professional Quad full HD LCD / Multi Media company based in Holland.
Business Type: Manufacturer, Distributor/Wholesaler, Other
Product/Services: Professional 56'' Quad Full Hd Display, LCD, Miltimedia
Brands: Marfo Media
Number of Employees: Less than 5 People
Company Website URL: http://www.marfomedia.com
Year Established: 2006
Legal Representative/Business Owner: Jesse Marfo
Main Customers: Hospitals, Broadcasters, Rich people etc.
Total Annual Sales Volume: Below US$1 Million"
http://www.alibaba.com/member/nl100006105/aboutus.html
A bit more ...
http://en.asiakingworld.com/company.html/12067
Owner of the domain www.marfomedia.com:
DT Interlink, Ka-Hing Cheung
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"Marfo Media is a professional Quad full HD LCD / Multi Media company based in Holland.
Business Type: Manufacturer, Distributor/Wholesaler, Other
Product/Services: Professional 56'' Quad Full Hd Display, LCD, Miltimedia
Brands: Marfo Media
Number of Employees: Less than 5 People
Company Website URL: http://www.marfomedia.com
Year Established: 2006
Legal Representative/Business Owner: Jesse Marfo
Main Customers: Hospitals, Broadcasters, Rich people etc.
Total Annual Sales Volume: Below US$1 Million"
http://www.alibaba.com/member/nl100006105/aboutus.html
A bit more ...
http://en.asiakingworld.com/company.html/12067
Owner of the domain www.marfomedia.com:
DT Interlink, Ka-Hing Cheung
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2008/07/17
My last mail to Van Der Led
Where is my Jisus, where is the refund?
You just know it: NO ANSWER!!!!
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You just know it: NO ANSWER!!!!
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2008/07/16
No Jisus V2 till today!
Six days since the 10th of July!
Meanwhile I found this article:
http://www.engadget.com/profile/1932931/
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Recent Comments:
Van Der Led's WM2 cellphone is Slayer approved {Engadget}
Apr 27th 2008 4:43PM
Dont buy, I did and this is what they
came up with after some mail traffic why they don´t deliver.
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Good day,
Thank you for your interest in Van Der Led and its products.
For the past few weeks we have been working very hard on our new mobile
watch phones (MW1, MW2), and the introduction around it, But at the same
time more technical problems came with it.
Because our server crashed, we lost every paypal order that we received by
email (and thus makes us unable to check out the order) and because of
this the delivery has been delayed for an unknown time.
We are an young company that is trying to introduce new and innovative
products to the world, we are also at this moment very understaffed as we
receive numerous emails. But because of bad luck we have received some
negative feedback from some of our customers.
We want to show our customers that we intend to do good business, so we
will give everyone the following options:
1. if you still want your ordered product, send an e-mail with information
about your order to Payment@vanderled.com. (we do not have the exact date
of delivery, but we are working hard on it.) . As a thank you gift, you
will receive an 2 GB Micro SD Card.
or
2. if you want your money back, you can send an e-mail with your
information and money back as subject to payment@vanderled.com.
We hope that this letter will give us both a chance to understand one
another better. We are very sorry for the inconvenience it has caused.
If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact us.
Kind Regards,
Van Der Led
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The´ve got the money and now the´re postponing deliveries. Dont´t buy!!!!
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Meanwhile I found this article:
http://www.engadget.com/profile/1932931/
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Recent Comments:
Van Der Led's WM2 cellphone is Slayer approved {Engadget}
Apr 27th 2008 4:43PM
Dont buy, I did and this is what they
came up with after some mail traffic why they don´t deliver.
---------------------------
Good day,
Thank you for your interest in Van Der Led and its products.
For the past few weeks we have been working very hard on our new mobile
watch phones (MW1, MW2), and the introduction around it, But at the same
time more technical problems came with it.
Because our server crashed, we lost every paypal order that we received by
email (and thus makes us unable to check out the order) and because of
this the delivery has been delayed for an unknown time.
We are an young company that is trying to introduce new and innovative
products to the world, we are also at this moment very understaffed as we
receive numerous emails. But because of bad luck we have received some
negative feedback from some of our customers.
We want to show our customers that we intend to do good business, so we
will give everyone the following options:
1. if you still want your ordered product, send an e-mail with information
about your order to Payment@vanderled.com. (we do not have the exact date
of delivery, but we are working hard on it.) . As a thank you gift, you
will receive an 2 GB Micro SD Card.
or
2. if you want your money back, you can send an e-mail with your
information and money back as subject to payment@vanderled.com.
We hope that this letter will give us both a chance to understand one
another better. We are very sorry for the inconvenience it has caused.
If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact us.
Kind Regards,
Van Der Led
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The´ve got the money and now the´re postponing deliveries. Dont´t buy!!!!
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2008/07/06
Should I trust the founder and director?
of Van Der Led?
I WILL!
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I WILL!
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First mail from Van der Led!
Because of my Blog announcement?
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From: jessemarfo@hotmail.com
To : *****@*****
Date: 06.07.2008 17:09:53
Good day K*** B***,
We have sent you an e-mail on July 2nd that we will send you a Jisus V2 on the 10th of July. You do not have to send back the MW2, and we will refund the 28.00 EUR tax / custom you paid.
We do not know why you did not receive our e-mail.
We will do our best to solve this problem as soon as possible.
Best regards,
Jesse Marfo
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From: jessemarfo@hotmail.com
To : *****@*****
Date: 06.07.2008 17:09:53
Good day K*** B***,
We have sent you an e-mail on July 2nd that we will send you a Jisus V2 on the 10th of July. You do not have to send back the MW2, and we will refund the 28.00 EUR tax / custom you paid.
We do not know why you did not receive our e-mail.
We will do our best to solve this problem as soon as possible.
Best regards,
Jesse Marfo
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2008/07/04
Announcing a Blog
about my experiences with Van Der Led.
To: JESSE MARFO and VINCENT RAMNARES:
Text: "On Monday, 07 July 2008 I will open a Blog about my bad experiences with Van der Led (VDL) ..."
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To: JESSE MARFO and VINCENT RAMNARES:
Text: "On Monday, 07 July 2008 I will open a Blog about my bad experiences with Van der Led (VDL) ..."
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2008/07/02
Paid 408,00 EUR till today - no Jisus
and got a fake watch ...
I wrote (again) to
info@vanderled.com
order@vanderled.com
jessemarfo@hotmail.com
"Please tell me what to do!"
NO ANSWER!!!
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I wrote (again) to
info@vanderled.com
order@vanderled.com
jessemarfo@hotmail.com
"Please tell me what to do!"
NO ANSWER!!!
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Parcel from Hong Kong arrived
Hey is it my Jisus V2?
Before I could get the parcel (my Jisus?) I had to pay another 28,00 EUR for custom/tax.
I opened the parcel ... no Jisus! ... it's a watch with integrated cellphone, looks like a fake ... I don't think it works, I don't want to touch this never ordered stuff ...
What to do? Sending back the watch to Hong Kong? Where? No adress, no consigner/shipper, everything very strange ...
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Before I could get the parcel (my Jisus?) I had to pay another 28,00 EUR for custom/tax.
I opened the parcel ... no Jisus! ... it's a watch with integrated cellphone, looks like a fake ... I don't think it works, I don't want to touch this never ordered stuff ...
What to do? Sending back the watch to Hong Kong? Where? No adress, no consigner/shipper, everything very strange ...
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